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Terence McKenna: ...Adulthood seems to be a freezing of the reflex to play. And then one is forever caught where one was standing at age 25 when one suddenly became intellectually and and esthetically constipated.
Bruce Eisner: Right. And later a lot of the psychologists like Maslow and Jung said that the purpose of our whole life is to keep growing with self-actualization and self-realization. You know, in the earlier stages of Freudianism there is a place where it all ends according to conventional psychology. But in the new psychology, we constantly grow.
Terence McKenna: That's right. Human life that isn't growing is dying.  read more »